{"id":779,"date":"2012-02-17T16:26:34","date_gmt":"2012-02-18T00:26:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/godslovewins.com\/blog\/?p=779"},"modified":"2013-09-04T21:30:28","modified_gmt":"2013-09-05T04:30:28","slug":"the-rich-man-and-lazarus-by-george-sarris","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/godslovewins.com\/blog\/the-rich-man-and-lazarus-by-george-sarris\/","title":{"rendered":"The Rich Man and Lazarus by George Sarris"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-weight: normal; font-size: 13px;\">The following is by George Sarris from his blog at <strong>The Christian Post<\/strong>. A number of people have brought up this parable to us hoping we would address it. O<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-weight: normal; font-size: 13px;\">ften used as a proof-text to indicate how hell is an eternal inescapable state of conscious torment, the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus has found a prominent place in the recent discussion over the nature of hell. However, it has been generally recognized that Jesus&#8217; point in this parable most certainly was not about the details of the afterlife but rather evoking from a familiar story a particular response from His listeners, especially the Pharisees. If you have had an uneasiness over this parable and have not heard a cogent explanation of this parable&#8217;s message and purpose please read George Sarris&#8217; very informed and intelligent interpretation of this well-known story&#8230;<\/span><\/h1>\n<div>\n<p><strong>The Rich Man and Lazarus by George W. Sarris<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In any discussion of ultimate destinies, one passage of Scripture almost always comes up in support of the idea that Hell is a place of conscious suffering that never ends \u2013 the parable of The Rich Man and Lazarus in Luke 16:19-31<\/p>\n<p>In that passage, Jesus tells his listeners:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham\u2019s side. The rich man also died and was buried. <strong>In hell, where he was in torment<\/strong>, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, \u2018Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because\u00a0<strong>I am in agony in this fire.<\/strong>\u2019<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>But Abraham replied, \u2018Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and\u00a0<strong>you are in agony<\/strong>.\u00a0 And besides all this,\u00a0<strong>between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.<\/strong>\u2019<\/em><a name=\"more\"><\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>At first glance, it certainly looks like there is no way around understanding this teaching as promoting the idea of endless, conscious torment \u2013 the rich man is \u201c<strong><em>in hell<\/em><\/strong>,\u201d he is \u201c<strong><em>in torment and agony in this fire<\/em><\/strong>,\u201d a \u201c<strong><em>great chasm<\/em><\/strong>\u201d has been fixed between the rich man and Lazarus, and those who want to cross over that chasm \u201c<strong><em>cannot<\/em><\/strong>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>However, when we look more closely at the passage, several things come up that bring that interpretation into question.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Rich Man \u2013 NOT In Hell<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>First of all, the Rich Man was\u00a0<strong>not<\/strong>\u00a0in \u201cHell.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The images associated with the English word \u201cHell\u201d in this passage clearly affect how it is understood by modern readers.\u00a0 However, that is\u00a0<strong>not<\/strong>\u00a0the word actually used by Jesus to describe the place where the rich man is abiding, and I am surprised that the original NIV translators chose to use that term in this passage when they\u00a0<strong>never<\/strong>\u00a0translate it that way anywhere else in Scripture.<\/p>\n<p>The English word \u201cHell\u201d automatically brings to mind never-ending punishment. But, the Greek word Jesus actually used here does not communicate that idea at all.\u00a0 Jesus said the Rich Man was in\u00a0<em>Hades,\u00a0<\/em>and Scripture specifically teaches that\u00a0<em>Hades<\/em>, as a place of punishment, does\u00a0<strong>not<\/strong>\u00a0last forever.\u00a0<em>Hades<\/em>\u00a0will one day give up the dead who are in it, and will itself be cast into the lake of fire.<\/p>\n<p>Revelation 20:13-14 says,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and\u00a0<strong>death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them<\/strong>, and each person was judged according to what he had done.\u00a0\u00a0<strong>Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire<\/strong>.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>A Misunderstood Parable<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The next thing we should note is that this is a parable. Jesus is telling a fictional story to teach certain truths to His hearers.<\/p>\n<p>The parable occurs as the last in a series of five parables \u2013 The Lost Sheep, The Lost Coin, The Prodigal Son, The Unjust Steward, and The Rich Man and Lazarus. It begins with words that are exactly the same, or very similar to the words at the beginning of two of the other parables.\u00a0 The Rich Man and Lazarus starts with \u2013 \u201cThere was a rich man . . .&#8221; The parable of the Unjust Steward begins in exactly the same way \u2013\u00a0 \u201cThere was a rich man . . .\u201d The parable of The Prodigal Son commences with a similar comment \u2013 \u201cThere was a man . . .\u201d<\/p>\n<p>At the beginning of this series of parables, we are told,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Now the\u00a0<strong>tax collectors and \u201csinners\u201d<\/strong>\u00a0were all gathering around to hear him.\u00a0 But the\u00a0<strong>Pharisees and the teachers of the law<\/strong>\u00a0muttered, \u2018This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.\u2019<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Just a few verses before this parable, Luke tells us,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong><em>The Pharisees, who loved money<\/em><\/strong><em>, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus. He said to them, \u2018You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts.\u2019\u00a0\u00a0<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The audience for this parable is made up of two distinct groups of people \u2013 the \u201ctax collectors and sinners\u201d who were spiritually poor and recognized their need for God, and the Pharisees and teachers of the law who were materially rich and had deceived themselves into thinking that they were the ones favored by God. The focus of the parable was on those self-righteous religious leaders who were rich in the eyes of men, but poor in the eyes of God.<\/p>\n<p>Jesus begins His parable with the words,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Many of the Pharisees and teachers of the law to whom Jesus was speaking were actually clothed in purple and fine linen, and lived in luxury every day.<\/p>\n<p><strong>A Familiar Story<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, the underlying story behind this parable was one with which both the religious leaders and the tax collectors were familiar. The first part of the parable is derived from well-known folk material relating to the reversal of fortune in the after-life. It was originally an Egyptian folk-tale of the journey of Si-Osiris, the son of Setme Chamois to the underworld. That story concludes with these words:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>He who has been good on earth, will be blessed in the kingdom of the dead, and he who has been evil on earth, will suffer in the kingdom of the dead.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The story was later brought into Palestine by Alexandrian Jews, where it became popular as the story of the poor scholar and a rich tax collector named Bar Ma\u2019jan.\u00a0 After the two men died, one of the poor scholar\u2019s colleagues had a dream in which he was allowed to see the fate of the two men in the next world \u2013 the poor scholar was in \u201c<em>gardens of paradisal beauty, watered by flowing streams<\/em>.\u201d\u00a0 Bar Ma\u2019jan, however, was standing on the bank of a stream trying to reach the water, but was unable to do so.<\/p>\n<p>In the original story, the religious leaders would have identified with the poor scholar, since they also were \u201cscholars\u201d who prided themselves on their knowledge of Moses and the prophets. They would have looked down with marked disdain on the tax collector in the familiar story who they considered a great sinner simply by virtue of his occupation.<\/p>\n<p>In an absolutely brilliant move, however, Jesus turns the tables on his listeners and identifies them\u00a0<strong>not<\/strong>\u00a0with the hero in the story, but with the villain. The religious leaders were the ones in the parable who were rich in this world\u2019s goods, and proud in the eyes of God!<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Real Message Of The Parable<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This parable is actually one of four two-part parables, where the emphasis is placed on the second part.\u00a0 According to Near Eastern Studies scholar Joachim Jeremias,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Since the first part is drawn from well-known folk material, the emphasis lies on the new \u2018epilogue\u2019 which Jesus added to the first part. Like all the other double-edged parables, this one also has its stress on the second point, namely, that Jesus does not intend to give teaching about the after-life, but to give grounds for the refusal of the demand for a sign.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Jesus drew on a story that was familiar to his hearers and changed some of the specific details in order to make a very explicit point.\u00a0 In His version, He pointed out in a very powerful way that it was the self-righteous religious leaders, not the tax collectors and \u201csinners,\u201d who were the ones who were not listening to or understanding Moses and the prophets. Their pride and hypocrisy kept them from believing in Him as the Messiah, and they would not repent even if the greatest sign possible were given to them.<\/p>\n<p>Years later, in AD 70, the Roman legions came and destroyed the city of Jerusalem and the Temple, even as Jesus had elsewhere predicted. The religious leaders to whom Jesus was addressing this parable would be deposed from their high positions and experience great suffering at the hands of the Roman legions. But, even then, they would not believe. They would harden their hearts \u2013 even after One had been raised from the dead.<\/p>\n<p>Jesus was telling a parable. He drew on a fictional story that was familiar to His listeners in order to communicate a specific message to those to whom He was speaking.\u00a0 The original story talked about death and\u00a0<em>Hades<\/em>, and Jesus appropriately kept that in His version. He was\u00a0<strong>not<\/strong>\u00a0relating definitive facts about the afterlife. He was using the story to communicate a specific truth about\u00a0<strong>this<\/strong>\u00a0life. What He did was similar to what a modern speaker would do when making reference to a book like\u00a0<em>The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe<\/em>\u00a0from the\u00a0<em>Chronicles of Narnia<\/em>. He could clearly point out some very important truths about life in this world without putting his stamp of approval on the existence of talking animals in another world.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>This post used by permission from George W. Sarris at The Christian Post: \u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.christianpost.com\/engaging-the-culture\/the-rich-man-and-lazarus-8404\/\">http:\/\/blogs.christianpost.com\/engaging-the-culture\/2012\/02\/the-rich-man-and-lazarus-17\/<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The following is by George Sarris from his blog at The Christian Post. A number of people have brought up this parable to us hoping we would address it. 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